Fall 2006 Road Report Summary

		Road and Bridge Meeting
		    September 22, 2006

Pat Aiello, Karen Dobel, and John Dobel from the Road Committee met with Tim Allen, Clear
Creek County Road and Bridge Supervisor and John Sanchez, West End Supervisor to discuss
the attached report.


The bottom line was that while some specific problems have been or will be addressed, there is
little prospect of any overall improvement in road maintenance. Tim pointed out that the R&B
budget has been essentially flat for fourteen years while the cost of every component from labor
to materials to equipment to fuel has increased – in many cases substantially. In addition, this
year and next they are trying to redirect a little more money to repairing the paved roads in the
county because they have been prioritized a little lower in prior years and are now deteriorating
seriously.


The issue of scraping off road base was not resolved. Tim and John Sanchez pointed out that
some scraping of road base is necessary to remove snow and ice, especially early and late in the
season when the road is not frozen solid. They also pointed out that grading the road base back
onto the surface can also bring rocks off of the shoulder and into the roadway, and some
homeowners like the berm on low side because it keeps runoff in the road instead of on their
property. The committee (none of whom has ever operated a grader) feels that despite those
issues, a better job of grading could be done.


The dangerous shoulder erosion at 856 Hyland has been repaired.


We also discussed the problem of homeowners not maintaining their driveway culverts and runoff
and how we can improve that and we reviewed the process for initiating a Local Improvement
District should there be enough interest in paving the remainder of the roads.


As always the committee appreciated the time and attention of the county personnel.


Respectfully submitted,


John Dobel

Floyd Hill Road Committee Report

September 2006

We reviewed the state of the Hyland Hills roads on September 21, 2006. It did not appear that any of the roads had been graded in the past two months or so.

Many of the hilly sections of road show severe wash boarding and erosion on switchbacks is severe. Meadow View may be close to impassable without a high-clearance vehicle.

On many roads nearly all the road base had been scraped off to the downhill side of the road leaving the underlying large rocks showing through. This had been a continuous problem for at least the last two years, but is worse than ever.

Instead of grading the base back onto the road and using it to correctly camber the road into the upside drainage ditches, it has been stacked up on the downhill side. While this prevents edge erosion in some places, it causes drainage down the roadbed itself rather than into the ditches.

The dust control chemicals which had worked effectively for several years on Hy Vu, have been graded off along with the road base.

While we are sensitive to the limited resources of the County in manpower and money, it seems that grading the road base correctly rather than scraping it off would save both money and grading effort on the roads and in the ditches where a lot of the road base ends up.

There were several points of severe shoulder erosion. The one at 856 Hyland looked especially dangerous because it has come fairly far into the road itself, and it is extremely deep so it looked like a vehicle dropping a wheel into it would probably roll over.

Road Base Grading Problem

Lower Hy Vu – Road Base scraped off to side
Upper Hyland – Road Base scraped off to side Centennial Cone fire in background

Upper Ponderosa – road base scraped off to side

Specific Issues

East of 31 Hy Vu — Erosion due to road camber has produced a cut which is carrying road base downhill to Ponderosa and filling in the ditch.
Switchback at 171 Hy Vu — Erosion on inside of corner.
351 Hy Vu – erosion due to road camber
405 Hy Vu – blocked culvert
Hy Vu in general — exposed rock in roadway due to scrape off of road base
Edge Cliff Road – road base stripped
Below 1971 Aspen — ditch clogged
1103 Aspen – Mail box in ditch
874 Aspen – grade of road causes cross road rivulet
848 Aspen and downhill – ditch silted up

645 Aspen – Road erosion

476 Aspen and up hill – severe erosion

151 Saddle Ridge Driveway – culvert blocked causing erosion of road across

Above 212 Saddle Ridge – heavy wash boarding

212 Saddle Ridge – erosion at culvert

509 Ponderosa – erosion problem

453 Ponderosa – culvert blocked

391 Ponderosa – erosion better than it has been in previous years

353 Ponderosa – blocked culvert

42 Ponderosa – opposite side shoulder eroded and pavement will soon be affected

687 Hyland – Mailbox in ditch (old problem)

759 Hyland – no culvert

856 Hyland – severe erosion – danger of rollover

1375 Hyland – Erosion

61 Pine Ridge – blocked culvert

209 Meadow View – blocked culvert some erosion across

273 Meadow View – silted up ditch

South of 348 Meadow View – pavement edge erosion

434 Meadow View – shoulder of road under mailbox eroding pavement

779 Meadow View – no culvert

837 Meadow View – culvert blocked

Meadow View Switch Backs above 1227 – severe erosion